1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,120 I live in Richmond Beach right off the water and I saw kind of an unusual craft of some 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,120 kind. 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,120 I don't know what it was. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Do you have anything to describe what happened? 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,120 Yes. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,720 I had been to Waxham Range to buy some paint and I came home and I was sitting in the car 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,320 and I was listening to a song and then I got out of the car and started to get my dogs 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,320 out and I just, you know, noticed lights. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:41,720 And so I looked up and I can't really estimate exactly how high it was, maybe 300 feet, maybe 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,720 lower, I don't know. 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,280 And I saw two lights and they were flashing very sporadically. 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,920 And then I saw one light and it wasn't a strobe, it wasn't going around like a normal 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,920 plane. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,880 It was kind of flashing. 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,680 And so then I watched it for a second and I thought, well, you know, that's kind of 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,680 a funny plane. 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,680 I didn't think too much of it. 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:06,440 And then all of a sudden I saw maybe six or seven more lights and they were extremely 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,840 bright and they were flashing all over it and they were all white. 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:18,480 And then I thought it moved kind of quickly and it was to the left of me and then it was 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:27,600 to the right of me and then it was sort of to the front of me and it was flashing real 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,880 funny all this time, you know, all these lights and then maybe one and then a whole bunch 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,160 and then, you know, and I never saw any red lights or any green lights, although it was 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,800 at different angles and I was really watching it, you know, and it's really clear tonight 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,400 and I kind of low and then I decided that I better get someone. 26 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,720 So I ran in the house and told my husband to come out and see this thing and he watched 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,560 it and it went in a northeasterly direction and it seemed to be kind of low and moving 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,720 first kind of slow then kind of fast and, you know, it was not really zigzagging, but 29 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:05,120 it was just picking up feet and then decreasing kind of funny and he watched it fly off and 30 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,120 he saw it too. 31 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,120 And it was a really peculiar type of light. 32 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,560 It wasn't a revolving strobe. 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:17,800 And I don't know, it was just these lights seemed to be kind of one sided on it, you 34 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,800 know, when they were flashing the brightest. 35 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,800 I see. 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,800 And I don't really know what else and there wasn't any noise. 37 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,440 I mean, we didn't hear any helicopter, you know, where we could have heard, I think, 38 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,640 the helicopter that were that low and didn't notice any aircraft engine and, you know, 39 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:40,080 I could have been terribly excited maybe and overlooked that, but I didn't recall hearing 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,080 anything at all. 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,080 Okay, could you see a fuselage of any kind? 42 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,080 Not at all. 43 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,080 No shape whatsoever. 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Just a light. 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 It was like there was nothing there except light. 46 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,080 It was really peculiar. 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,080 You know, it was like you could almost look through whatever was there. 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,080 It was just dark. 49 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,080 I mean, no nothing. 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Well, did the lights themselves take any kind of a shape? 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Well, like I say, they started out with like the two lights and then there was like one 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,080 and they were kind of two. 53 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,080 The way I was looking at it kind of to the right of it. 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:18,080 And then, okay, hard to describe on the phone, then they sort of got to one side of those 55 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,080 two lights, you know, a whole bunch of them. 56 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,080 And they almost, you know how when you observe a shooting star they have a little tail? 57 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,080 Right. 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,080 Okay, well that's sort of what they looked like. 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,080 They were so bright. 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,080 They would, they seemed to be almost ejecting themselves from those two lights, you know. 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,080 I see. 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,080 They were, well, they were just so bright. 63 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,080 They were really little tails. 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,080 You know, like a, well like a bright star or maybe a headlight if you look at it real 65 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,080 right in your eye or something, you know, it just kind of, but they seemed to be to one 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,080 side of the two. 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Okay, those that seemed to be ejected, did they just take off and leave or did they just 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,080 remain here? 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,080 No, no, no. 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,080 They just, they just seemed to grow and then they would go out and then the whole process 71 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:04,080 would start over again, real zigzagging and then the two written in the one, you know, 72 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,080 and there was just no pattern to them. 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,080 I see. 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,080 It was real funny. 75 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,080 It was like they were, only thing I, like a neon light when it shorts out or something, 76 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,080 you know, it kind of just keeps flashing. 77 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Oh yes, yes. 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Yeah, that was the pattern that they seemed to be following in and they just, they didn't 79 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,080 go anywhere. 80 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:27,080 They just would die out and then they'd come on again and when it was flying off, my husband 81 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:33,080 came out and I, at that time there were what looked like two lights flickering brightly 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:39,080 than one and then maybe three when he started and like he said, you know, that he'd never 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,080 seen anything flicker like that either and we've seen a lot of planes at night on the 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:49,080 water like this but and in fact we, you know, we've been looking at planes since just to 85 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,080 see and nothing at all like that. 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,080 It was really funny. 87 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,080 When you were looking due west, they were over the water at all times. 88 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,080 No, they weren't over the water. 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,080 We lived right off the water, maybe a half a mile or maybe two quarters of a mile from 90 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,080 the water's edge and they were almost directly, it was almost directly over my driveway. 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Oh, okay. 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:15,080 And then it seemed to be closer to the water and then back kind of behind my neighbor's 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,080 house across the street and then heading northeasterly. 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Okay. 95 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,080 For now. 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Now do you have any estimate of distance? 97 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Well, no, that would you say is practically overhead but how about altitude? 98 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,080 The only thing, the only, I don't, I don't have a good gauge of altitude. 99 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,080 First of all, I mean, it's hard for me to estimate, you know, footage. 100 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:41,080 I'm not real good at that but it, from the tree tops and everything, I'd have to say 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,080 maybe 200 feet. 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Okay. 103 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,080 So maybe lower, maybe slightly higher, I don't know. 104 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Okay. 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,080 It would be really difficult for me to. 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,080 And you didn't pick up any sound at all? 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,080 No sounds at all. 108 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,080 And I could hear dogs, the dogs was all barking in the neighborhood and everything. 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:03,080 And my dog, I just went off and left him, you know, standing there and that's really unusual 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,080 for me but I, the only thing I could think of was first of all, I thought, well, I'm going 111 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,080 to scream and then I thought, well, you know, what's that going to do? 112 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,080 So then I thought, well, someone's got to see this. 113 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,080 So I ran in and got my husband as quickly as I could because it was starting to leave 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:20,080 when I decided to come in and he ran out very quickly and stood on the bench on our deck, 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,080 which is a little higher and he could see it. 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,080 And as far as he was concerned, he had never seen anything like that either. 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Was anyone in the residence near home watching television at the time? 118 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,080 My, yes, they were. 119 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Did they notice anything happening to the TV? 120 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Oh, I don't know. 121 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,080 Just a second. 122 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,080 Bob, when you were in the house, you were watching the television, right? 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 What happened to the cat? 124 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Did it act on your... 125 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,080 Did the picture get further? 126 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,080 What was the time? 127 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,080 What was the reason for the call? 128 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 My husband says, yes, there was. 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,080 How much, how much before I came home, honey? 130 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,080 I said about five hours before I got home. 131 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 He says about five minutes before I got home. 132 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,080 The, um, set had lines going through it. 133 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Okay. 134 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,080 He said no, he said it would be closer to ten minutes before I got home. 135 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Okay. 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,080 And like I said, I sat in the driveway and listened to a song, 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,080 so that was probably two or three minutes there. 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Okay, now when you were listening to that song, did you notice anything on you? 139 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Nothing at all about the car radio. 140 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Okay. 141 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,080 And, uh, anyway, it was weird. 142 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,080 I can't tell you what that did to me. 143 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,080 Is this the first time you've ever seen a UFO? 144 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Well, I don't even know best what it was, 145 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,080 but yeah, it was the first time I've ever seen anything like that. 146 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,080 Yes. 147 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,080 And, uh, at first, you know, I just, normal reaction, 148 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,080 oh, what is that? 149 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,080 You know, what's that dummy doing? 150 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,080 You know, he must really be a screwball flying like that. 151 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,080 You know, and I thought, God, man, he's really got lights all over that. 152 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,080 You know, just typical, you know, reaction like that that I would have. 153 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,080 And then I thought, my God, you know, that, that, that guy isn't, you know, that's weird. 154 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:02,080 And then all of a sudden, you know, I realized, um, maybe that might not be a plane or a helicopter. 155 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,080 And that's when I started to get a little bit excited. 156 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:11,080 But I got pretty, in fact, I was, you know, just kind of nonchalantly observing this thing at first, 157 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,080 because I just, you know, it never even dawned on me that it could be anything else but a plane. 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,080 And I just thought, oh, God, you know, and, uh, I wasn't excited or anything when I first looked at it. 159 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,080 I guess maybe that's why I looked at it so closely, but, um, man, 160 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:29,080 after the first couple of seconds and it started to sink in, I got a little bit excited then. 161 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,080 And I admit I was getting a little bit panicky. 162 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,080 Did you have any unusual feelings, physical or mental at all? 163 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,080 No, uh, no, I haven't. 164 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,080 How about while you were watching it, other than being excited to anything? 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:52,080 I was terribly excited. Um, I began to get a little bit afraid, but, um, in fact, I get a little bit funny when I think about it. 166 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:59,080 But, um, I, uh, didn't really feel fear or anything like that until after I'd really watched it for a minute 167 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,080 and a minute began to fright me because I didn't know what it was. 168 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Right. 169 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:09,080 And then I got kind of excited after I had come in the house, like I had to run out and see it again, you know, like, 170 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,080 like I had to prove it to myself the second time and it was really there. 171 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,080 And then I kind of felt assured when I looked at it the second time. 172 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:23,080 But I had a, I've had dreams before about, you know, like I might watch, um, a movie on television or something 173 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,080 and I might dream about a UFO, but I'm nothing like that. 174 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,080 I mean, just dumb dreams that I could have eaten something. 175 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,080 What time did you spot that? 176 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:37,080 It would have been, uh, it must have been just before nine o'clock. 177 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:42,080 I, I, gee, I don't even look at the clock in that dumb. I should have done that. 178 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,080 Just before nine o'clock, wasn't it? 179 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,080 Five minutes to nine, my husband said. 180 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,080 I knew it had to be closed because I was trying to make this door before it closed. 181 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Okay, fine. I think I got just about everything. 182 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,080 Now there's one thing while it's still fresh in your mind. 183 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,080 I would like you to make a drawing showing it. 184 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,080 Of what I saw. 185 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Right. 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,080 Um, okay. 187 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:12,080 And then what we would like to do is come out for just a short visit and interview you on this 188 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,080 and find out exactly where this was seen in relation to your home. 189 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,080 Okay, I will. 190 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:23,080 I kind of drew, as I was talking to you, just to kind of try and help me explain how the lights were. 191 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:31,080 Um, it was really funny, you know, it, um, I guess the way I could describe it best is, 192 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,080 when we go and watch the fireworks, sometimes they shoot off one that, when it explodes, 193 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,080 it doesn't explode right. 194 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,080 It kind of fizzles out to one side. 195 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,080 I guess that would be closest to what it looked like. 196 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:49,080 I mean, like it was lopsided or, you know, all to one side and then the center lights here. 197 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:54,080 But anyway, I'll be more than happy to do it now, so I'll have it, you know. 198 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,080 Fine, and then can we get back to you later for an interview? 199 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Yes, you may. 200 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Okay. 201 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,080 Certainly. 202 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,080 I feel kind of, you know, like when I first thought about it, the first thing I did was I called my neighbor 203 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,080 because she's kind of cool-headed about things like this and I thought, 204 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,080 well, you know, maybe she'll talk me out of it. 205 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,080 And, um, I was really upset and she said, 206 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,080 well, call the power out at CPAC and then he said, call Payne Field. 207 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:23,080 So I tried meeting one of them answers, so then I called the police and then the police gave me Boeing's power 208 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,080 and then they gave me your number. 209 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,080 Uh-huh, fine. 210 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Do you know when approximately you would be coming out to? 211 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,080 Well, you'll probably hear from us tomorrow. 212 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,080 Okay. 213 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Someone will be calling you. 214 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,080 Okay, fine. 215 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,080 Well, thank you very much. 216 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,080 Just out of curiosity, has anyone else called you or? 217 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,080 Not this evening. 218 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Oh, that's really weird. 219 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,080 I don't know what to say, but anyway, um, fine. 220 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Thank you very much. 221 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,080 Okay, thanks again for calling.